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Micheal Dietrich
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Posted - 2007.11.20 18:50:00 -
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Lets see how many of you can get this. The rifles are based off of:
1. Accuracy
2. Combat effectiveness
3. Innovation
4. Handling
5. Service length
Personally I was kinda shocked by some of the rifles on the list.
Also for fun put down your top 10 personal favorites. I'll post the actual survey within the hour to see how many of you got it.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:22:00 -
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AK-47 made #1. Most widely produced and used rifle. Most Durable and longest lasting.
Accuracy: Average
Combat effectiveness: Excellent
Innovation: Excellent
Handling: Excellent
Service length: Very Long
M-16 is #2. Despite it's bad start in life it still managed to become one of the top rifles and the basic platform for alot of the newer rifles we now use.
Accuracy: High
Combat effectiveness: High
Innovation: High
Handling: High
Service length: Long
#3. SMLE. 10 round bolt action that was the main rifle in service from 1895 to 1956.
Accuracy: High
Combat effectiveness: High
Innovation: Average
Handling: High
Service length: Very Long
#4. M1 Garand. I've got one of these little badboys myself and it's a very effective tool. This was the first real successful semi-auto on the battlefield in WW2.
Accuracy: Good
Combat effectiveness: Excellent
Innovation: High
Handling: Good
Service length: Average
#5. FN FAL. If I remember, this was the first German machine gun. Very brutal weapon for it's time.
Accuracy: Average
Combat effectiveness: Average
Innovation: High
Handling: Average
Service length: Very High
#6. Mauser 98K. Can't do a top ten without a mauser. Excellent rifle and they last forever.
Accuracy: Excellent
Combat effectiveness: Average
Innovation: Very High
Handling: Average
Service length: Very High
#7. Steyr AUG. Not even sure what this one is. I think it's australian made and looks kinda funky if I'm correct.
Accuracy: Average
Combat effectiveness: Very good
Innovation: Very High
Handling: Excellent
Service length: Low
#8. 1903 Springfield. Big gun for WW1
Accuracy: Excellent
Combat effectiveness: Low
Innovation: Low
Handling: Low
Service length: Very high
#9. Stg 44. Another german made piece of warfare. Titled as the original assualt rifle.
Accuracy: Poor
Combat effectiveness: Excellent
Innovation: Very High
Handling: Average
Service length: Very Low
#10. M14. Very good weapon.
Accuracy: Excellent
Combat effectiveness: Excellent
Innovation: Average
Handling: Average
Service length: Very Low
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Posted - 2007.11.20 21:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Keorythe
Gotta throw in a bolt action there.
Yeah one of my personal favorites is my .308 British Enfield. That is an insanely accurate gun not to mention a small cannon to boot.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Digital Solaris
The OP is making a shopping list, because he failed in a whole different department?
Not sure what the failed in a whole different department means but it ain't no shopping list. Just watched this on the military channel last night and found it interesting. Was kinda surprised not to see the thompson in the list.
And besides, I've got me more than enough guns 
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Posted - 2007.11.20 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 20/11/2007 23:43:09
Originally by: pwnedgato
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Digital Solaris
The OP is making a shopping list, because he failed in a whole different department?
Not sure what the failed in a whole different department means but it ain't no shopping list. Just watched this on the military channel last night and found it interesting. Was kinda surprised not to see the thompson in the list.
And besides, I've got me more than enough guns
The Thompson is a SMG not a rifle...
hehehe, he shut you up Dietrich 
Depends on what your definition of rifle is 
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Posted - 2007.11.20 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
I can only assume the rifle this guy was using never made it onto that list:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk0HYn2u7c0
OMG LOL. That was just sad.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Depends on what your definition of rifle is
No it quite simply is a Sub-Machine Gun it fired the .45 pistol round the same round you put in the magazine (or drum) for a Thompson is the same round that you would put in a 1911 Colt .45
.45ACP, .22LR, .32ACP, .38ACP, 9mmP were all the available ammo types for the thompson. BSA Thompsons could also use 7.65mm Parbellium (.30 Ruger) rounds.
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Posted - 2007.11.21 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: pwnedgato
Edited by: pwnedgato on 21/11/2007 02:23:22
"Always remember your weapon was made by the lowest bidder"- Some guy I can't recall.
Depends on whether the manufacturer is working in a purely capitalist setting or not.
The Steyr AUG is an Austrian design not Australian. 
Yes that was pointed out already and I was corrected thank you. It's a good thing I wrote "I think" implying that I wasn't sure cause I really had no knowledge of that weapon but thanks for reminding me...again
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Posted - 2007.11.21 16:22:00 -
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My AK-47 came with a muzzle system that reduces the recoil. It's shaped to fire a portion of the gas up keeping the rifle a little more level.
About the only other thing I can think of to reduce the kick is laying on the ground with a bipod.
Doubt either of those would do any good in full auto though.
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Posted - 2007.11.21 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
A compensator? 
So what if it makes my barrel look a little longer?! It still does...uh..leave me alone!
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Posted - 2007.11.23 19:52:00 -
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I'm a gun freak and I admit it. Not crazy though. I just find target shooting and the occasional Whistle pig raid fun.
Not to mention guns can be art too. Not that I have any artistic guns. I do have a few classics though.
I love it when I show up at a gun club and everyone brings .22's and hunting rifles then I pull out the AK and I've got a instant crowd. Pick up 1000 rounds for $300 and let everyone get a turn with a 30 round clip.
We let the kids fire it after we feel they've learned about gun safety which my club is very adament about. Kind of a bonus gun fun.
And good lord $14,000 for a gun?! I payed that much for my truck. I personally go on the fact that if it's over $500 I don't need it
And I would love to get my hands on the breakdown diagrams of a P-90. That sideways mount clip boggles me and I don't have any books new enough to have the schematics.
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